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Audi's competes strongly in the trendy coupe part of the large SUV sector with this Q8. Jonathan Crouch drives the revised version.

Ten Second Review

The Audi Q8 is one of those large coupe-style SUVs, part of a genre pioneered by BMW a decade ago with their X6 and subsequently copied by Mercedes. Audi's considered solution for fashion-orientated folk browsing in this segment is Q7-based and very Vorsprung durch technic. Especially in this updated form.

Background

In this century's second decade, the Volkswagen Group's MLB Evo platform spawned lots of luxury SUVs. First, we had the Audi Q7, then the Bentley Bentayga, the Porsche Cayenne, the Volkswagen Touareg and the Lamborghini Urus. Finally, in 2018, we came back full circle to another Audi, a derivative of the Q7, this swoopier Q8, first launched in 2018. The Q8 was Audi's entry into the large sector SUV-coupe market, started in the Noughties by the BMW X6, which was then followed by the Mercedes GLE Coupe. The latest versions of both of those two rivals have received facelifts in recent years, so the Q8 has had one too, a car that these days sells alongside a completely separate EV model, the unrelated Q8 e-tron. Here though, we're looking at the combustion Q8, which continues to roll of the VW Group's Slovakian Bratislava production line (alongside the Q7, the Cayenne and the Touareg) and shares the same wheelbase and cabin width as its large Audi stablemate. The driveway demeanour though, is very different here, the emphasis on fashion, rather than family. It's pointless asking whether we really need this kind of car. People want them. Audi's made one. Is it any good? Let's find out.

Driving Experience

The intended emphasis with this Q8 is far more on comfort and luxury than it is on lithe handling. Which is why Audi uses the full-length version of the Volkswagen Group's MLB-Evo architecture for this car, rather than the slightly shorter, more agile design of this chassis fitted to a rival Porsche Cayenne. As you'd expect, it's the same platform as features in the Q7, though here, the Ingolstadt engineers have fitted it out with shorter springs and larger wheels - which is unfortunate because both detract from the supple ride that ought to have been this Q8's calling card, fitted out as it is with standard air springs for the aluminium five-link front and rear suspension. To be frank, we've tried passively-suspended luxury-segment SUVs that have handled poor surfaces better. We'd hoped that the brand might have addressed this issue as part of this facelift, but as previously, unless you stretch to the six-figure sums required for the fastest SQ8 and RS Q8 versions, the drive dynamics of the mainstream models fall into that no-man's land between comfort and sportiness. Yes, as before, at speed through the turns you get excellent traction and decent body control. But this Audi's still much happier when you're not throwing it about. Or when you're towing; it can tug along up to 3,500kgs and 'off piste', the air suspension can raise the car as much as 254mm off the deck. Given that the brand is no longer developing combustion engines, it's no surprise to find that there are no changes to the two conventional powerplants that lie beneath the bonnet of this revised Q8. They're both 3.0-litre V6s, a 55 TFSI petrol unit with 340PS and the 50 TDI diesel with 286PS that we tried. As before, both models are fitted with the brand's 48V mild hybrid system with its belt-driven starter motor. And drive via an 8-speed Tiptronic auto. Plus of course there's standard quattro 4WD, which divides torque front-to-rear in a 40:60-split. When required, it transfers the majority of power to the axle with the better traction. The mainstream alternative is the 394PS petrol Plug-in Hybrid 55 TFSI e model, now improved with a larger 25.9kWh battery which improves EV driving range substantially to 51 miles. Your two other Q8 model options both use a sonorous but thirsty 4.0-litre petrol V8, which offers 507PS in the SQ7 and a prodigious 600PS or 640PS in the RS Q8. These variants get the All wheel steering (also available with top 'Vorsprung' trim on an ordinary Q8). And can also be fitted with a 'sport differential' and electromechanical active roll stabilisation.

Design and Build

The visual changes made here are subtle but effective - a restyled front grille with revised air intakes and standard-fit LED headlamps (with optional Matrix beams) which now have a revised daytime running light signature. The rear LED tail light design has been updated and trim pieces like the door surrounds, the underside guard and the rear diffuser are finished in contrasting colours to designate the various trim levels. Otherwise, it's as you were. Audi's understandably keen to point out the differences between this Q8 and the more conservative, family-oriented Q7 model it's mechanically based upon. Its coupe-style roof line makes it appear much lower than that sister model and it's 66mm shorter and 27mm wider. Plus there's a more distinctive front end, a shorter rear overhang and a mighty set wheels, which now vary between 20 and 23-inches in size. Thanks to the frameless doors, the coupe-type roof line stretches low across the vehicle body visually, ending in a long roof spoiler. The roof line arches slightly towards the flat sloping, strong D-pillars, which are supported by wide, muscular contours. Inside, this improved model isn't much different, so as before there's the now familiar dashboard black-panel look common to all current like Audis, with twin stacked centre screens, a Virtual Cockpit instrument display and main controls that almost dissolve into the fascia's large, black surface when switched off. The brand has now widened the range of apps available on the MMI infotainment system to include third party providers like Spotify and Amazon Music. Of course, this coupe-style model doesn't provide the Q7's third row of seating, but Audi insists that there's ample room for five people, pointing out that the interior space exceeds that of the direct competitors in almost all relevant dimensions. The luggage compartment holds 605-litres, which increases to 1,755-litres with the rear backrests folded down. Two golf bags can easily fit in diagonally. Think in terms of a 100-litre boot space reduction with the TFSI e PHEV model.

Market and Model

In the mainstream Q8 range, there are three trim levels - 'S line', 'Black Edition' and 'Vorsprung'. Pricing starts at around £73,000 for either the 50 TDI 3.0-litre diesel variant or the 55 TFSI petrol model. That's very competitive with this model's two main rivals, the BMW X6 and the Mercedes GLE Coupe. Pricing starts at around £94,000 for the SQ8 and around £113,000 for the RS Q8. Standard equipment across the Q8 range is, as you'd imagine, is very comprehensive. Like all top Audis, this one gets the brand's 'MMI navigation plus' infotainment system, which uses the latest LTE Advanced standard for data transfer. The navigation system offers intelligent destination suggestions based on previous journeys. Luxury is of the highest order but many owners will want to embellish the standard kit list with niceties like the optional 23-speaker Bang & Olufsen sound system. As is usual nowadays, there's autonomous driving tech too, most of it included in the optional 'Tour assist' package which gives you adaptive cruise assist (a feature that provides longitudinal and lateral control in all speed ranges) and 'efficiency assist' (which uses sat nav data to automatically adjust your Q8's speed to the current speed limit and automatically reduces your speed before corners, during turning and on roundabouts to lower fuel consumption. Plus there's 'Emergency assist' which takes control of the car if you're taken ill and safely stops it automatically.

Cost of Ownership

The Q8's primary 50 TDI 3.0-litre diesel engine uses mild hybrid technology, integrating a lithium-ion battery and a belt alternator starter into a 48-volt primary electrical system for greater efficiency. The rechargeable battery is located underneath the luggage compartment floor and stores 10 Ah of electrical capacity. That allows this Audi to coast between 34 and 99mph with the engine switched off; when you brush the throttle, the belt alternator starter restarts the engine quickly and during deceleration can recover up to 12kW of energy. The start-stop range starts as low as 13mph. Let's get to the WLTP figures. For the 50 TDI variant, the combined fuel figure is up to 34.9mpg and the CO2 reading is up to 213g/km. The alternative 55 TFSI petrol variant manages up to 25.4mpg (combined) and up to 235g/km of CO2. If you want to do better, consider the 55 TFSI e Plug-in hybrid variant, which now has a 25.9kWh battery with a 51 mile EV range. As for the 4.0-litre petrol performance models, the SQ8 returns up to 23mpg and 289g/km; while the RS Q8 can only manage up to 21.9mpg and 292g/km. What else? Well all versions of the Q8 cost £570 a year in VED road tax for year's two to five of ownership. And all sit in the highest possible Benefit-in-Kind taxation bracket. On to residuals. A typical Q8 50 TDI S line model would, after three years and 60,000 miles be worth 46.7% of its original value, though you'd lose a bit of that with top-spec 'Vorsprung' trim. As usual with Audi models, there's a choice of either a 'Fixed' or a 'Flexible' servicing regime, the choice between the two depending on the extent of your likely annual mileage. As for insurance groupings, well all Q8s are rated at a top-of-the-shop group 50, which seems unreasonable when a mechanically identical Q7 rates from group 44.

Summary

You can see why Audi felt it had to build this car, though it's a little hard to understand why it took the brand until 2018 to bring it to market. Despite this delay, the original Q8 never brought anything radically new to the fashionable formula undergirded this sort of car and of course, this updated version doesn't either. Even so, the Q8 does still manage to bring buyers seduced by this class-conscious category something a bit different. Turn up to a business meeting in an X6 or a Mercedes GLE Coupe and some might dismiss you as a showy extrovert. Arrive in a Q8 and the impact would be a touch more subtle. For some, that will be important, particularly as this Audi is - in its own way - just as stylish and avant garde as its two main Teutonic arch-rivals. If you want one of these, then probably nothing else will do. Which is exactly as it should be when it comes to this class of car.

Body Glass
Electric front+rear windows
Privacy glass - dark tinted rear and rear side windows from B-pillar backwards
Rear wiper
Heat insulating glass in windshield
Rain and light sensors
Brakes
Electronic Stability Control (ESC) including ABS, ASR and EDL
Hill hold assist
Electromechanical parking brake
Hill descent control
Traction control
Carpets/Rugs
Front/rear floor mats
Chassis/Suspension
Adaptive sport air suspension
Communication
Audi connect safety and service (e-call)
Natural voice recognition
Audi application store
Audi phone box light with wireless charging
Audi smartphone interface includes wireless Apple carplay/Android Auto
Audi connect with Amazon Alexa Integration
Bluetooth
Driver Aids
Audi drive select
Electro-mechanical Power Assisted Steering
Audi parking system plus includes 360 degree display with front and rear sensors
Rear view camera
Driver Convenience
Operating buttons in black, glass look with haptic feedback
Automatic start/stop system
Power operated tailgate
Driver Information
10.1" and 8.6" Dual colour touchscreens
Audi virtual cockpit - 12.3" high resolution LCD display with fully customisable instrument cluster
MMI navigation plus with MMI touch
Low washer fluid indicator
On board computer
Service interval indicator
Driving Mirrors
Auto dimming frameless rear view mirror
Electrically folding auto dimming/adjustable/heated door mirrors with memory function, LED side indicators and kerb view function for passenger side
Embellishment Trims
Polished oak trim with grey finish inlay
Engine
Diesel particulate filter
48V Mild hybrid technology
Entertainment
Audi sound system with 6 channel amplifier, 180 watt amplifying capacity and 10 loudspeakers including subwoofer
DAB Digital radio
Aux-in socket
Audi music interface with 2 USB ports with charge and data functions
Exterior Body Features
Platinum grey front spoiler lip and diffuser insert with honeycomb grille in black
Rear side wing doors
Black exhaust tailpipes
Loading edge protection in stainless steel
Black single frame mask
Singleframe grille surround in matte platinum grey
Exterior Lights
LED signature daytime running lights
3rd brake light
Audi beam
Matrix LED headlights with dynamic front and rear indicators
Coming/leaving home lighting function
LED rear light plus
Headlight washers
Heating/Cooling/Ventilation
2 zone automatic climate control
Interior Features
Comfort front centre armrest
Rear centre armrest with 2 cupholders
Luggage compartment sill protection in stainless steel
Stainless steel pedals
Black cloth headlining
Interior Lights
LED interior ambient lighting
Packs
Black styling pack plus - Q8
Safety
3 point seatbelts on all seats
Warning triangle and first aid kit
Driver and front passenger, front side and curtain airbags
Front passenger airbag deactivation
Convenience key with safelock
Audi pre sense front
Predictive pedestrian protection
Tyre pressure loss indicator
Seatbelt monitoring
Seats
Heated front seats
Seat cushion displaceable by 100mm in the ratio 60:40
Single front passenger seat
3 bench rear seats in 2nd row
ISOFIX child seat mounting for front passenger seat and 2 outer rear seats with top tether child seat mounting for all 3 rear seats
4-way lumbar support for front seats
Driver seat memory function
40:20:40 split folding rear bench seat
Electrically adjustable front seats
Front head restraints
Rear headrests
Security
Electronically operated child lock
Keyless go with remote central locking
Anti-theft wheel bolts and wheel loosening detection
Anti theft alarm with tow away protection
Immobiliser
Transmission
Quattro all wheel drive with self locking centre differential
Vanity Mirrors
Sunvisors with illuminated vanity mirrors
Wheels - Spare
Tyre repair kit
Tool kit

Emissions - ICE
WLTP - CO2 (g/km) - Comb - TEH: 225
Standard Euro Emissions: EURO 6
HC: N
WLTP - CO2 (g/km) - Comb: 220
WLTP - CO2 (g/km) - Comb - TEL: 219
Engine and Drive Train
Number of Valves: 24
Cylinders: 6
Gears: 8 SPEED
Transmission: SEMI-AUTO
Compression Ratio: 16.0:1
Engine Layout: NORTH SOUTH
Catalytic Convertor: No
Engine Code: 4MT0N2
Fuel Delivery: COMMON RAIL
Camshaft: DOHC
Cylinder Layout: V6
CC: 2967
Cylinders - Stroke (mm): 91.4
Cylinders - Bore (mm): 83
Fuel Consumption - ICE
WLTP - FC (l/100km) - Comb: 8.4
WLTP - FC (l/100km) - Comb - TEH: 8.6
WLTP - FC (l/100km) - Comb - TEL: 8.4
WLTP - MPG - Comb: 33.6
WLTP - MPG - Comb - TEL: 33.6
EC Directive 1999/100/EC Applies: 0
WLTP - MPG - Comb - TEH: 32.8
General
Badge Power: 286
Did at least one aspect of this vehicle's safety give cause for concern?: 0
Special Edition: 0
Special Order: 0
Based On ID: N
Insurance Group 1 - 50 Effective January 07: 50E
Alternative Fuel Qualifying: 0
Badge Engine CC: 3.0
Vehicle Homologation Class: M1
AdBlue: No
Generation Mark: 1
Coin Series: Black Edition
Coin Description: TDI Quattro
Manufacturers Corrosion Perforation Guarantee - Years: 12
Manufacturers Paintwork Guarantee - Years: 3
Standard manufacturers warranty - Mileage: 60000
Standard manufacturers warranty - Years: 3
Performance
0 to 60 mph (secs): 0
Engine Torque - MKG: 61.2
Top Speed: 150
0 to 62 mph (secs): 6.1
Engine Power - PS: No
Engine Power - BHP: 286
Engine Power - KW: 210
Engine Power - RPM: 3500
Engine Torque - LBS.FT: 443
Engine Torque - NM: 600
Engine Torque - RPM: 1750
Test Cycles
Emissions Test Cycle: WLTP
RDE Certification Level: RDE 2
Tyres
Tyre Size Spare: TYRE REPAIR KIT
Tyre Size Front: 285/40 R22
Space Saver?: 0
Alloys?: No
Wheel Style: 10 Y SPOKE
Wheel Type: 22" ALLOY
Tyre Size Rear: 285/40 R22
Vehicle Dimensions
Width (including mirrors): 2190
Height: 1678
Wheelbase: 2998
Height (including roof rails): 1705
Length: 4992
Weight and Capacities
Gross Vehicle Weight: 2900
Minimum Kerbweight: 2160
Fuel Tank Capacity (Litres): 75
Max. Towing Weight - Braked: 3500
Max. Towing Weight - Unbraked: 750
Max. Loading Weight: 740
Turning Circle - Kerb to Kerb: 13.3
Luggage Capacity (Seats Down): 1755
Luggage Capacity (Seats Up): 680
No. of Seats: 5

Driving Mirrors
Body colour door mirrors
Carbon exterior door mirrors
Exterior Body Features
Black roof rails
Pearlescent paint
Electric panoramic glass sunroof
Special metallic paint
Exclusive paint identifier
Metallic paint
Audi exclusive paint
Interior Features
Dinamica/leather upholstery with front sports seats S embossed logo
3 spoke heated leather multi-function sport steering including paddle shift
Packs
City assist pack - Q8
Tour pack when bought with City assist pack - Q8
Tour pack - Q8
Paint - Metallic
Metallic - Mythos black
Metallic - Glacier white
Metallic - Satellite silver
Metallic - Waitomo blue
Metallic - Chili red
Paint - Pearlescent
Pearl - Daytona grey
Paint - Solid
Solid - Pure white
Paint - Special
Audi Exclusive - Custom
Special metallic - Sakhir gold
Special metallic - Ascari blue
Service/Warranty
Audi warranty - 4 years or 75000 miles
Audi warranty - 5 years or 90000 miles
Towing
Trailer Assist including electrically folding ball hitch
Trim - Leather
Valcona leather - Black with grey stitching + front sports seats S embossed logo
Trim - Part Leather
Dinamica/leather - Black with grey stitching + front sports seats S embossed logo
Wheels - Alloy
22" x 10.0J 5 double spoke module style audi sport alloy wheels with matt structure grey inserts
23" x 10.0J 10 spoke trapezoidal style audi sport alloy wheels in black
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Top speed: 150 mph 200
6.1
0 to 62 mph (secs)
34.9
Fuel Consumption
286
Power (BHP)
50E
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